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FLYOVER DEEPDIVE - Summer House: The Aftermath
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It’s finally here: the end of the road for Summer House Season 10 (we mean it this time). The besties unpack The Aftermath sit-downs, including Lindsay giving Amanda every possible reason to run far, far away from West—only for Amanda to go to Italy with him anyway. We also cover Kyle and West’s conversation, which somehow lasted several minutes while providing exactly zero new information, and Ciara’s long-awaited chat with Meija. Sadly, the most baffling revelation of all is that Meija is apparently still talking to West. Ladies, stand up.
I'm Lauren and I'm Emily. And we're Midwest besties.
SPEAKER_01Hello, everyone. Hello. Welcome, welcome. So today we are gonna do a little flyover deep dive on Summerhouse. Which, like, truly, truly, we now know is the final. Like, it's the end. Oh, thank God. Emily and I watched it together and she turned it on and she's like, is this the right episode? She's like, episode 20. What is this? Network television?
SPEAKER_00Is this the 90s?
SPEAKER_01What are we doing?
SPEAKER_00And then it started and it was the music was so dramatic. So dramatic. Like I was like, oh my god, war. And then Lauren goes, band of brothers.
SPEAKER_01Emily was like, this was produced by Tom Hanks.
SPEAKER_00Saving private rum pin for Brewlow.
SPEAKER_01Come on. Except the like objective of the battle is to kill Wes Wilson. Oh my god. Is he dead yet? If there was ever an enemy on our soil, it is that man. He's public enemy number one.
SPEAKER_00Okay, so should we so the the summer house, the aftermath, was three, was three vignettes. Yes. Yes. The first was Amanda and Lindsay having together and talking.
SPEAKER_01At Lindsay's beautiful, gorgeous apartment. There's been so much, there's been so much activity around this. So this is fresh on our mind. So we're gonna talk about it and try and add in. Probably like as we speak, there's probably like people, like Lindsay's probably like on threads. Because she has been activated.
SPEAKER_00She is pissed.
SPEAKER_01She's pissed. Yeah. So it starts with Amanda coming to Lindsay's apartment and they're like pouring glasses over Rose, and they're gonna sit on the couch and basically like have this like discussion where it's like Amanda did in this conversation what she should have done at the reunion. Totally. Um, and Lindsay was like, you need a big sister right now. Like you need somebody. It's like you're out there alone doing this and like basically like fucking up your entire life, and you need somebody who's gonna like shake you and just be like, What are you doing?
SPEAKER_00I have to say, you know, we are hubcaps, we are Lindsay fans. But she has been such a great reality television personality throughout all of this.
SPEAKER_01She has been peak. I think motherhood has just brought out a different as it does, as we both know, like it's calmed her like a lot. And I feel like she has just a lot more perspective and is able to cut through the bullshit um instead of adding to the drama like she used to do. I think.
SPEAKER_00I will say if there is ever a time where Andy wants to like be home with his new honey, she could do a reunion.
SPEAKER_01Oh my God. I mean, she was his co-host.
SPEAKER_00She was his co-host.
SPEAKER_01She was his co-host. It's very, it's just very clear, like Lindsay, Kyle, and I think we said this in our last flyover deep dive on Summer House. Like, they are looking at the commentary online. They're looking at what the fans are saying, and they are like, okay, like, yeah, that makes a lot of sense. And they're they are speaking for us in these conversations. They are asking the hard questions and and holding these people accountable and putting their like feet to the flames, but they're honestly doing it in a really like kind and empathetic, yeah, compassionate way. Yeah, like more so than than really than West certainly deserves. And honestly, Amanda.
SPEAKER_00In this conversation, going back to um Summer House, the aftermath, this conversation with Amanda and Lindsay, um, we get real answers from Amanda, real emotions from Amanda, and then we get a lot of the things that we assumed and knew, which is that Amanda has no self-esteem. Yeah. And that she got out of this relationship and was extremely vulnerable. And it felt really good to have attention from a guy. Um, and it's as simple as that. Like if we're looking for bombshells, if we're looking for like they were in love all along, it's like I just don't think I think Wes saw an opportunity, saw a single girl in front of him. And that was previously totally off limits.
SPEAKER_01And I think that made her even more desirable because he's disgusting.
SPEAKER_00And that she like does not know how to get validation without male attention. So she just obviously hopped on to that as quickly as possible.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. And like, as somebody, it's like I got out of a serious relationship in my early 20s, and I mean, still like I was still so young. Um, I did spiral and like I was the one to end it, and it was like the absolute right thing to do, the right decision. Um, but like there was a period of time where like I made poor decisions, yeah. Even though like I was happy it was over, because like I wasn't coping with the relationship ending in the, you know, like I wasn't, and so like I understand this, like that she would be going through something that she might not be making the best decisions, but like the gravity of these decisions, and just like also like I was 22, 21, I think she's 34. Yeah. Like she was married, I was not like it's totally different. Um, but I see shades of that, and I can like have some compassion for that. But like for her to not like step back and say, like, I have this friend who's been there for me that like I love and care about, and you know, meaning Sierra, but then like beyond that, like I know what this is gonna do to our friend group, and I don't want to jeopardize that. It just like it was so stupid. And for what? He's embarrassing her. As Lindsay said, like he's already out there embarrassing you, he's still talking to Mija.
SPEAKER_00I don't think she saw anything other than male attention, male validation. It feels good, like this feels good.
SPEAKER_01I know it's so right. It's just like you need to be in therapy, you need to be single, you need to like, you know, learn how to like live on your own. Like we it we thought it was funny, like when Kyle and Amanda first separated, and Kyle like made a joke about how she would still call him because like the smoke detector batteries were like at least three jokes made publicly about that. Yeah. And now, knowing what we know, it's just like no bitch. It's not cute. It's not cute. Like, did you see that? Was it the cut that did an article on like the whole like I'm just a girl? The baby woman. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I have not read it.
SPEAKER_01I haven't read it either. I have like thoughts just based on the headline.
SPEAKER_00Me too.
SPEAKER_01That I'm just like, but Amanda Badulla was one of the like in the cover photo. Like they had her on there, which I'm like, how fucking embarrassing is that? Like that she is like the caricature of what people think of. Um, so anyway, my sister sent a really great text to the Emily uh squad chat that I just want to read. Shout out, Emily. I'm just like putting your uh IP on here. Um, she said, I'm obsessed with Linnya, Lindsay, and Kyle. They were literally asking the questions and saying the things everyone online has been saying. Lindsay was so firm, flawless execution, no notes. And I have to agree, like I felt like Lindsay held really, really firm to her boundaries. She told Amanda she should feel stupid. She was giving Amanda the hard truth. She was like, imagine fucking up so badly that we all forgot how bad of a husband Kyle was to you.
SPEAKER_00And she also did this thing that she was still delicate. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01It was amazing.
SPEAKER_00If we if we wanted to, if we want, and this is just how it is, if we want to get information from Amanda that isn't just like word salad, you have to go in with kitty gloves, or she will shut down. And there were plenty of times in that conversation with Lindsay where like when she was like, Well, you need to be alone to get self-esteem. You should be dating right now. And so, yeah, self-esteem and self-love. Like, you don't get those from men, you get that from yourself. Like, you literally see her eyes glaze over. Yeah, and she's like, Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Emily and I were like, Oh, she dissociated there. Oh, she's shutting down.
SPEAKER_00She's not listening to it.
SPEAKER_01And she did say she was like, because Amanda's like, where was this at the reunion? Like, this is what I wanted you to say at the reunion. And Amanda was like, when people are yelling at me like that, I just shut down and I retreat and I like go inward and just associate. And like, I understand that, but I am a civilian. I am not a Bravo reality star. I'm not like, yeah, you signed a contract for this. And so it's like, yeah, it sucks to be getting yelled at, but also, bitch, you deserve to get yelled at. And like it's unfair that you just get to like shut down like that. I don't know. And I know that's like these are human emotions, and so it's like I can't just like put those kind of boundaries on it, but it's like it's kind of bullshit.
SPEAKER_00I mean, she's never been that good of a reality star, which is why like she's a coattails girly.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, which she's always kind of been the wife of 100%. That's how she got on the show.
SPEAKER_00Um, and like we got to see a flash of this like really confident person who apparently was just like not hooking up but hooking up with Wes the whole time. Right. Um, but along with that, if you were gonna stand on your own two feet, and she was gonna have to do this whether she started dating Wes or not, which was like be held accountable for her actions at reunions, or just like not step in it, you know. Right.
SPEAKER_01And she created it, stepped in it, blew it.
SPEAKER_00Like I mean Yeah, there was always gonna be this level of confrontation that she was never gonna, she's not confrontational.
SPEAKER_01No, she's not. Um, which honestly does not make a good reality star.
SPEAKER_00No. So any other, I don't think we got any more like revelations from the Lindsay and Amanda Vidal. Lindsay again did a great job.
SPEAKER_01I mean, Lindsay said that he West and Mija were hooking up still as of March. So like he cheated on Amanda. Amanda uh and he cheated on Miha with Amanda. Somehow Amanda's the other woman in this, and Amanda's like, yeah. And Lindsay's like, he's gotta go. Like he's got like he's manipulating you. Um, I've already seen a lot of outcry online about this like infantilization of Amanda and sort of like Lindsay and Kyle priming her for a redemption arc with this whole idea of like she was manipulated. Um, and we saw Lindsay like she was really going after West on threads. Um, but and I think we'll get into that, but she did post one that's super relevant to her conversation with Amanda because people, there were some people who were like saying she was manipulated is like helping her skirt accountability. Um, but Lindsay did say, like, she said, okay, so she tweeted this, not seen slash didn't make the edit. I told Amanda at the end of that convo, in order to be friends with me, I need my friends to show integrity, character, and better decision-making skills. And until that happens, unfortunately, there's no place for people like that in my life. Because Amanda told Lindsay, because this conversation took place, and then Amanda went to Italy with West. They are still together. Like as of like three days ago, like people were taking pictures of them. Dumois was posting pictures of them. So it's like Amanda is well aware of what's going on. She's choosing to either accept it or believe West if he's lying to her, which I'm sure he is because he is a pathological liar. Um, and so I think people were frustrated because they were like, oh, Lindsay, like they're all like gonna help her like move through this scandal.
SPEAKER_00But I don't want to the things you saw her disassociate when she totally thinking the conversation went towards shitting on West. Yeah. She didn't deny anything. Yeah. Or she didn't stand up for him. No, she did not stand up for him. I she's never done that.
SPEAKER_01Because it Lindsay said at PJ Clark's West, we got a PJ Clark's drop, which was just so funny. I don't know. Um she was like, West said that you were pursuing him, that like you were obsessed with him. And Amanda was like, That's not true. That's such bullshit. So it's just like, I think I looked at Emily at this point and I was like, I'm too married for this. Like, this is so exhausting. What are we like? Come on.
SPEAKER_00And I do, as much as I love Lindsay, she does have a way of making whatever someone tells her sound absolutely like the worst version of it. So, like, I don't know if I 100% believe West was like, she like wanted me. I didn't even want her. Like, he probably was like, we pursued each other, and then she took that and ran with it. That's just my guess. Um, but I definitely think that she just doesn't care. Like, she just wants to be with West.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that's very clear. And I mean, we did see that with her and Kyle. Yes, like you said, that's my man.
SPEAKER_00That's my man. This is your man.
SPEAKER_01Yes.
SPEAKER_00Look at the screen. That's my and I'm gonna go.
SPEAKER_01And that's what you're gonna settle for. Stick with that. She's a lover girl. She just is like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna stick by him. And it just like doesn't matter how stupid she looks. She did it for 10 years with Kyle, and she's gonna do it for however long with West until he decides to discard her.
SPEAKER_00Or just like the the all the churning of being made a fool of and having the internet say like he's making a fool of you is going to make her fall out of love with him, just like it made her fall out of love with Kyle.
SPEAKER_01We also said she's like, we're having, I mean, again, here we go with like we're having conversations, we're having conversations, but she's like, you know, we I told him like I'm 34 and like I'm gonna wanna have kids soon. Like it's fucking laughable. Like you're really talking to Wes Wilson about patent like that. You one of your priorities is to have kids.
SPEAKER_00Like, and I think that's why they're not telling us everything because if we did, it's laughable. Like, oh yeah, yeah. Um, so moving on from there, unless there's anything else, uh, we get Kyle and West's conversation. I will say, and I want to get your thoughts on this. I I'm happy that Kyle was there, but I just don't think he was the right person to facilitate that conversation. If we wanted to get the goods quotes, like we got with Amanda, because like it's the husband of the woman that you're sleeping with. And I don't think West, like, there was just so many blocks.
SPEAKER_01Like, oh, I mean, I personally don't think anybody would be able to get anything good out of West because I don't think there's anything good there. Like, I think that he is very comfortable on a surface level. He's comfortable when he's controlling a situation. Um, he's so obsessed with perception and looking good. And so he stumbles over his words. Every word was like, um, I mean, you know, well, we kind of like we did not, it was everything was word salad.
SPEAKER_00I just think like maybe if I don't know if Jesse would have been able to like hold his feet to the fire quite like Kyle, but maybe that flashback, so it was like a flashback of all the times that uh Miha was a part of the conversation in Summer House two seasons ago, this season, um, where he's like, I see, I see her on your phone. I just felt like maybe Wes would have let his guard down a little more because that's even if it's all bullshit, even if it's all pathological lies, I just wanted something different than purse lips and nervous.
SPEAKER_01She literally screamed at the TV, like, stop doing that with your lips. Like to what I mean, because he just wouldn't stop. It was. I could feel it. Like I got kind of scared for a minute.
SPEAKER_00I was like, my mom's mad at me. It was a hundred percent the voice I use with my I know, I jumped.
SPEAKER_01I flinched, I flinched. He did say something really interesting. Thank you for taking notes, Emily, because I didn't. Um, he made a comment. He's like, I don't mean I don't think this is gonna make this, but my time on, you know, my time on camera is over. So do you think he quit? No, no, I think he got fired. I don't think he quit. I think he knew he was gonna get fired after his reunion performance, his abysmal reunion performance. Yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_00I mean, if I were Andy, I would have been pissed.
SPEAKER_01Oh, and I'm sure, and you know what, like Andy has always been a homer for West because like he's from Missouri and Andy loves the boys. He does. Um, but I think even Andy at that point was just like, we're I'm I'm done with you. I'm fucking done with you. Yeah, like you we have sat here for 13 fucking hours, you know, doing this. People are crying, and you're just sitting there chewing on your cheeks. Like, what are we doing?
SPEAKER_00And he like would have fired Amanda too if he had to, if he hadn't, because like Kyle is going to ride for Amanda. He has already put his his feet down that it's like I'm not in love with her anymore. That was something that he said. I care about her, but like I am still going to fight her battles for her.
SPEAKER_01Kyle and Lindsay, I think this is mostly Kyle, and like I don't fault him for this, but like they need to stop carrying Amanda's water for her. Like she needs to do it on her fucking own.
SPEAKER_00I mean, if they haven't yet, I do not. I know. I know they're not going to. Because if I mean, if there's anything more poetic uh than literally Amanda spitting in the face of those people, like literally her spinning into West's mouth. I can't even speak about it. Like they are nothing path of destruction.
SPEAKER_01Absolute destruction. I mean, my prediction is that before the end of the year, shout out to Kelly, we texted about this, but like before the end of the year, she is going to enter some type of treatment, whether it's for like mental health, whether it's for drugs, for both. Like, I see this ending in absolute implosion.
SPEAKER_00Like she did admit to jumping back to her and Lindsay's conversation. She did admit to not remembering anything about the reunion, but she said it was because when people yell at her, she just like shuts down. But it's also because she was having a fucking brownout. She was like, she was so for real.
SPEAKER_01She was on horse tranquilizers. I don't know. I just almost was very uninterested in the conversation between Kyle and West because totally me too. Wes has nothing, there is nothing he can say that makes me care or understand. I I think he is so dishonest that like there's nothing, I just can't ever anything that he says, I'm just like, I don't believe you, sir.
SPEAKER_00I also really don't like when we get a uh preview for something and we feel like these revelations are gonna come out and I was duped. Like the the preview made it seem like he was going to admit that he had like carried a torch for Amanda. They definitely did something I'm gonna say something that's gonna hurt your feelings, but I've loved Amanda for a really long time, and that's not at all what he fucking said. He goes, I'm gonna say some things that might hurt. Can I be so can I can I be so honest right now? Can I be so truthful? And it's like we are doing here. What have you been doing this whole time?
SPEAKER_01What can you say that could honestly be worse? Because at this point, I think Kyle's like praying that he is in love with her because then Kyle won't feel so worried because Kyle's so he's like, I am so worried about where Amanda is going to be in all of this because he does still care for her and he knows what West is going to do to her.
SPEAKER_00I do see him like brace himself every time like West and Amanda do have this conversation about like possibly being in love. Like it is incredibly hurtful, but I think he's like, he would prefer that heartbreak than where he is right now because he keeps bracing himself and then doesn't have to brace himself for anything because the answer is like, well, I said I loved her, I said or loved her on that episode. And it's like, when you mean when you like went to a friend and said, I love you. Yeah. Like I literally would say it to like Jake. Luckily, Kyle perfect perfect response was like, I plus, I know you're apparently like have the emotional maternity of a sixth grader, but there's like loving someone and then being in love with someone. Like, are you in love with Amanda? And then it went to like, oh word salad. We're open to having the possibility of a conversation where we maybe think about that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, he's like, I mean, I've like thought about it. I like thought about it. It's just yeah, it I was very uninterested in that.
SPEAKER_00Um, and then moving forward to our third act, third final shortest. And Mija, what did you think? I thought it was a little awkward. So awkward. They're weird green Gatorade mimosas.
SPEAKER_01There, I just like that felt like there was not a good um rapport or something, like the conversation wasn't like flowing. Um, I also had in the back of my head, like I saw so Sierra posted, like as this was this episode was airing last night. Sierra posted a reaction meme of like a woman screaming, frustrated to threads, and Lindsay responded to it and was like, so I'm assuming. That this reaction is because Miha and West are still talking to this very day. So like I had that in the back of my mind that like I'm just not interested in Miha because it's like she's clearly still like involved with West to some degree. So I'm like, I don't really care what she has to say.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. So I did not know that. And I didn't say anything. Cause I like have I like Miha. I think she's interesting. I think she is visually pleasing to look at. Of course. Yeah. Um, just things that you like in reality TV show people. Um, I'm like the person who's been rooting for her. It's like maybe she should be a cast member. That would be such a good fuck you. But at the same time, I like talk to Lauren about it and I'm a sheep. Um, it's just we need to be done with the Wes Wilson of it all. We need to be done. We need a cold turkey. I'm saying this as a Missourian who isn't necessarily proud, but also a proud Missourian. It's complicated. I'm not gonna be happy until Wes Wilson is like back in fucking Missouri coaching high school football. Like Lee's summit.
SPEAKER_01Outside, like outside of Kansas City.
SPEAKER_00We're not doing like we're not we're not doing like a Columbia.
SPEAKER_01No, no, no, no.
SPEAKER_00We're not doing like a we're not doing like a D1 or D4.
SPEAKER_01What's the what's D1? Yeah, you're right.
SPEAKER_00You're right. I want like D3.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Like where they're like not allowed to recruit and give scholarships.
SPEAKER_00Because I do think, so let's get into the threads of it all. There has been a lot. Let me pull up like some stories that we've posted. Uh, while you do that, um the vibe, especially from we have talked about this previously um in other podcasts, that West isn't giving Bravo anything and then saying or stating his real feelings um in his podcast, on his podcast, which is supposed to be about sports. What is it called? Show me something.
SPEAKER_01Sh yeah. I think it's just show me pod because Missouri's a show-me state. Yes. Little known for that.
SPEAKER_00Um yeah, I don't know if you know that. Um and he s publicly stated last week that he wanted the Knicks to actually lose so that there would be a game that had to be played on Tuesday, Knicks and six, so that no one would watch Summer House the Aftermath.
SPEAKER_01And you know what, as an NBA girly, as somebody who was watching the finals, like, don't you fucking dare? Don't you fucking dare.
SPEAKER_00So there is just something a little like uh not a little. He is disrespecting, he is burning the bridge, he is spitting in the mouth of Bravo, and kind of putting the nail in the coffin. And it it's the quintessential biting the hand that feeds you because I don't know. Let's see if he can make it as a sports journalist, because he obviously crashed and burned as a Bravo celebrity.
SPEAKER_01Right. So Lindsay did not take kindly to this. No, it's her bag, bitch. Yeah, and so she hopped on threads and said, Let me just clear up a few things. She said, couple of things. One, West Wilson, you are trash trying to get people to not watch our show that I brought you on. You should move immediately. Two, I haven't seen Tuesday's aftermath episode, but I feel it in my bones. It is good, good. Even though we know some people didn't listen, still good. Three, in the city is just heating up. We are halfway through, and holy shit, what a roller coaster of the city. Our uh in the city reunion was so good, we might have two parts. I'm on Carl's podcast on Tuesday, which we'll get into. Sleep well, team. Then she wakes up the next morning and said, You know what? I'm not done. Uh it she said, good morning. Hope everyone slept well last night. I know I did. Woke up with some more thoughts if anyone cares. Number one, maybe Wes Wilson should go on his podcast and publicly apologize to me for using my daughter as clickbait and as a decoy to distract from his secret relationship with Amanda. Instead of talking shit about the show, he was so fortunate for me to put him on. Number two, Wes has tried to threaten my careerslash show now three times, and it's quite frankly disgusting. No other words describe it. First, when he was on his podcast after I had Gemma and told everyone there's no way I could come back to Summerhouse. I remember that. I know. We should have known then he's not smart, but here we are. Then with his diabolical decision-making skills to manipulate Amanda into dating him and threaten the status of our friend group and future of the show, and now trying to get people not to watch Tuesday's episode that he participated in, by the way. So that's the kind of dude he is, in case anyone still had questions. So Lindsay was activated as she has every right to be, and she has every right to be. Don't activate me because you've not seen me activate it. Um, because that is what we've seen Wes do he's going on his podcast and they're talking about Summer House, which is really pathetic. Because here's the thing it's like these reality stars will use their reality shows to channel it into another business so that like eventually they don't have to rely on being a reality star. You can't blame him for that. No, absolutely not. So he started a podcast with Sophie Cunningham, who plays on the Indiana Fever, and it's a sports podcast. He's a sports journalist, he played uh football in college, like he's a sports guy. Um, but then he's on his podcast talking about real the summerhouse scandal. So it's like, which is it? And it's like nothing more pathetic to me than when you're using something like that to get listens on your podcast that is not about that thing. Do you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_00If he wasn't shitting on it, right, go at it. I mean, use summer house, like use it. But the fact that you're also like talking shit about Summerhouse, talking shit about it. My days on camera are over. Yeah, I and acting too cool and acting like you're above it, but it's like, baby, you're getting engagement from it still. So you're not above it, you're still in it. And like I would love to look at the numbers, and I could be proven wrong, but like successful podcasts are like pretty big podcasts like West's, like they make money from engagement from TikToks because like that's pretty much the primary way you do it. Like, and I would love to see the number of views on the TikToks where he talks about Summerhouse and the views where they're talking about sports, and I would love to just compare them. I could be wrong. No, you're not gonna eat my croc, but like I desperately know that the his most popular clips are about summer house.
SPEAKER_01100%. And I just don't like it, he's never he has we just I think we can all like rest well in the fact that like West Wilson has peaked, and we have seen his peak and we are watching his downfall. And because he's never gonna do better, he's never gonna be on Bravo again. He's never gonna be like, okay, he's gonna try and be on like house of villains, and he's gonna try and be on like that stupid show where you like pretend you're in the fucking army, whatever the fuck that's called. I just think he's not charming enough for that.
SPEAKER_00Like, I mean, you could be right, but I'm saying Sandoval is like funny. He's a worm with a mustache, he has camp. Like, there is there are elements that make him, I mean, all the things that make Tom Sandoval watchable, even though he's a horrible person, Wes Wilson does not have.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. No, I mean, I totally agree. Like, I don't even think he'll be asked to be on traitors.
SPEAKER_00He better not be on traders. He better not be on traders. I just think pursed lips on the round table. Don't get me started. Where he's like, I'm having I'm having conversations with people, and um, I think it's gonna be No, get him off my screen. Get him banned, get him banned, get him banned.
SPEAKER_01We don't do that here. Get him banned. Um, so is there oh, so we did get some other like major news. So it started um as like a TMZ leak that they were reporting Wes Wilson was not asked back to Summerhouse. And we know we will be getting full cast announcements here really soon because they start filming the 4th of July uh weekend. And so it it leaked to TMZ first, and I was like, okay, that's like I because like they use TMZ as like an outlet a lot, and then it just made its way to people. And once it's in people, we know it's true. So like Bible. Thank God, war is over. He is fired from Summerhouse, TBD on Amanda. I do not think she will be asked back to Summerhouse.
SPEAKER_00No, what do you think? No, because I always thought it was gonna be up in the this is why, in my opinion, in the city exists as a vehicle for these cherished stars to not be in a share house when they're 50 years old. Like now we're moving towards like golden girls, so that's what in the city is for. I do always want there to be like pop-ins where people come in. Shared universe. Yeah, I love it.
SPEAKER_01Love it um but as they like shepherd in the new generation of summer house talent.
SPEAKER_00But I did not see Amanda ever being one of those people for one thing because she just wasn't showing up for weekends because she didn't feel like it. Right. So I definitely think Amanda was gonna part ways with Summerhouse anyway. Yeah. Um I'm more interested in if she's gonna be on in the city again.
SPEAKER_01I know. Me too. Me too. I would guess right now, yes. I think so.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Um I don't know. We'll just have to see. I don't have a as good of a gauge on that.
SPEAKER_00It's just so because what we found after the Vander pump, after Scandaval, is that they kind of everyone kind of became cursed, like associated with that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah. And I do think Vander Vanderpump was already really on the decline. Like honestly, Scandaval saved it for another couple of seasons. Um, or maybe it was just one more season. And they did learn from that by firing West instead of like, and I blame Alex Baskin because he is like a demon having Sandoval back and pushing for a redemption arc and pushing for Ariana to film with him, and she absolutely fucking refused. Um, and then the rest of the cast like siding with Sandoval because they were like, you're affecting our paycheck, and nobody didn't like try to give her the villain edit. Yeah, 100%. Yeah. And she was like, bye-bye.
SPEAKER_00I mean, it would be certainly easier for the city. I'm gonna go star in Chicago. Yeah, it would certainly be easier to give Kyle a villain edit, but no, they've learned.
SPEAKER_01Um, so anyway, this has to be our last flyover deep dive on this season of Summerhouse.
SPEAKER_00Let's do it. I cannot talk about Summerhouse anymore.
SPEAKER_01We have to take a break. We have to be done.
SPEAKER_00And I'm like enjoying in the city.
SPEAKER_01I am too, and it's not getting any attention.
SPEAKER_00I don't want to talk about Amanda Batullah for a long time.
SPEAKER_01I don't want to say his name anymore. Like I'm done. I'm done. I'm done with it.
SPEAKER_00Okay, I'm so happy.
SPEAKER_01No, I'm with, I'm totally with you. The fatigue.
SPEAKER_00I'm gonna do that clip. Praise the Lord.
SPEAKER_01Praise the Lord. Anyway, if you want to catch up on any of this, we break down this entire scandal from the beginning. Scroll back in our episodes. Um, it's in there, and then we have deep dives on the reunion. Um, and other than that, go with God.
SPEAKER_00Go with God. Thanks for going on this journey with you.
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