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FLYOVER DEEPDIVE - Summer House Season 10 Reunion Part 3
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I’m tired of this reunion, Grandpa! Emily and Lauren are back to discuss the Summer House Season 10 Reunion Part 3. And wow! We hope you weren’t hungry because West and Amanda gave us nothing. And much like when your idiot coworkers don’t come to the meeting prepared, we now have to reschedule the drama for a later date, with Summer House: The Aftermath premiering next week. Bravo literally said, “That’s too damn bad, keep digging!” But we digress. In this episode, we discuss the revelations we did get, including West’s word-salad relationship with Meija, Jesse’s feelings of betrayal, the fact that West and Amanda are now, indeed, “exclusive,” and whether their actions at this reunion constitute a fireable offense.
I'm Lauren and I'm Emily. And we're Midwest Besties.
SPEAKER_02Welcome everyone. Hello, everybody. Um, Emily and I just finished watching the what we thought with the final part of the Summerhouse reunion, and we're just kind of staring at each other.
SPEAKER_01Like we like, because you know, our studio is aka my basement office, and we watched it upstairs, and we just came down and we were so depressed.
SPEAKER_02We were setting everything up silently. Like we soundproof with um Emily's Nugget. Shout out Nugget.
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SPEAKER_02Yeah, sponsor us. And we just like weren't talking. Which we are two bitches who voluntarily started a podcast. We don't shut up. We're yappers. And we left, and I just kept saying wow. I was like, wow. And then wow, Bethany, wow.
SPEAKER_00Wow, Bethany. Okay, wow. Are you kidding me, Bethany? Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me?
SPEAKER_01The way we have to like shut up about like personal stuff so we can record the podcast. Like we literally, like, or even to watch this reunion, it was like we had to shut ourselves up because we were talking about skin tags.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. We're approaching 40. We have a great um like formula for when we record. Like I come over, we usually like have coffee, we yap for 30 to 45 minutes, and then we're like, okay, okay, okay, we have to do that.
SPEAKER_01We gotta do that. So, yeah, no, the summerhouse reunion had us silent. Silenced. Were you silent or were you silenced?
SPEAKER_00Were you silent or were you silenced?
SPEAKER_02So welcome. We are doing uh a flyover deep dive today, um, just like we did last week to um end out all the summer house stuff, except next week there's more.
SPEAKER_01They said, hold on a second, it's too early to say goodbye. It's interesting.
SPEAKER_02Okay, so should we maybe we'll talk about that later. Let's get into what are your initial thoughts? I know we just kind of talked about it, but like walking out of this, like kind of how Indy's like, do you have an intention? Do you feel like there was resolve? Do you feel like this was a good reunion? Like, what are your thoughts?
SPEAKER_01I was entertained, frustratingly so. I don't think, unfortunately, I don't think it had to be three parts. I think it wasn't the worst. But I feel like I had no um closure on what has happened. Yeah, it was very clear to me that Andy or not Andy, Amanda and West had their plan, which was give them nothing. Yeah, give them nothing. Give us nothing. Stick to those PR points, stick to those. Like I can sum up. This is my impression of Amanda after every question. Yeah, like I was just thinking, I had so many thoughts, and we had so many discussions and about our thoughts, and we had feelings and thoughts and discussions, and we were thinking about our feelings, there's so many, and we're so sorry, and there's thoughts and feelings and discussions, and we know we fucked up because we just like had all these thoughts and these feelings, correct?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, a hundred percent. Like, I am not a lover of reunions in general, like sometimes it's just like I'm so done with it, there's not much to discuss. Yeah, obviously, this is probably the most anticipated after Scandal, and now I would say before Scandal, because I do think this has surpassed hands down. Um just I felt by the end of this, like by the last 20 minutes, I was done because it's so clear we are not getting anything out of those two. She is barred the fuck out. Like she is, there is nothing cutting through. Like it's not clocking to her, nothing is clocking to her. You're not getting it, it's not clocking to you because she is on. I mean, that is not what a beta blocker does. Like a beta blocker is something that you can take to help with the physical symptoms of the anxiety. So if you like are have a fear of public speaking and your heart races, or you like have like you start getting twitchy and shaky, like you can take a beta blocker to help like calm those symptoms. It does not make you this like emotionless fucking robot. You know what does do that? Clonopin. Yeah, like I'm so sorry. I mean, I'm sure it was a cocktail of things, but I cannot believe the emotion in that room. Like that everybody, all of the guys, especially like Jesse was just like me watching the finale, like weeping the whole time. He was in tears on the verge of the channel. And you know, like they they're so exhausted, right? Like, that is probably the point where I would start to break down because you're so tired, you're so run through and just like emotionally overwrought at that point. Um, and we saw that out of Sierra, and Amanda just sat there, sat there literally the whole time. Did not blinking, staring at her, and just was like, I know, I know, I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_01It was it reminded me, I kept thinking about like people on trial, like when they're told not to give any emotion. Like lawyers tell, like, even people that you cannot emote.
SPEAKER_02It's like because someone told them that. Seriously, because it's like people will read into your emotions what they want to see, like, even if you're trying to like show that you're sad. Um, and Andy did point blank ask West if he was on beta blocks. That was crazy. And that was really crazy. That was like a reunion first that's never happened before.
SPEAKER_01Because I do remember he said that afterwards, this after the Scandal reunion with Raquel, he was like, Yeah, she was on something.
SPEAKER_02It but she was even more emotional than she gave us. I mean, Raquel's an idiot, but like, oh my god. And I think Amanda's an idiot.
SPEAKER_01I think Amanda's a idiot with a good fucking edit.
SPEAKER_02That's pretty obvious because I just think she had Kyle who like Kyle's not an idiot. Like, I think Kyle's a pretty smart guy. And like he is weirdly thoughtful about the things that he says and comes to these reunions prepared with receipts. Like, he has a lot of talking points, and I think that he was doing all of that for her. Yep. And I think what we saw in the past was Amanda, like other people were like leading the charge, and Amanda was just like on the coattails, like she was never the one coming out full force. Um, and I think it's because she's dumb. I think you're right, I think she's a dumb-dumb.
SPEAKER_01I just think that she might be a dumb-dum.
SPEAKER_02So, what we also got out of this reunion, besides just like nothing, was West admitting but not admitting that he and Miha were, he wouldn't say she was my girlfriend. He said she thought we were in an exclusive relationship.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. She would say, yes, she would say, if you asked her that maybe she was my girlfriend.
SPEAKER_02Like just like me as a writer watching this, and I'm just like editing every fucking dumbass thing they're saying. I'm committing to trying to make it work. I was really hoping you'd remember that.
SPEAKER_01I'm committing to trying to make it work. What are you saying? I feel like. So, what are the let's talk about the revelations. Let's talk about what we did get out of this reunion, and then we'll talk about what we didn't get out of this reunion.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_01So, what we got out of this is that yes, we got Wes to admit that him and Mia were in what he basically admitted without admitting that. After getting full court pressed by everybody. Oh my God, yeah, that he was in a relationship even though he was fucking around the whole time.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, 100%. Like she thought they were exclusive because he led her to believe they were exclusive. He sent her flowers on Valentine's Day, which is post-Super Bowl. There was a lot of like timeline stuff going on. He was like, Oh, at first he said, Oh, it ended in 2025, but then Sierra he was not expecting Sierra to come as prepared as she well. I mean, literally talking to Mihan, like during the breaks, FaceTiming her. Uh, she was like, You sent her flowers on Valentine's Day, like you and Jesse had met this woman. We didn't know that. Like he had flew her out to Montana.
SPEAKER_01But Jesse did say he was like, I was under the impression that she knew that this was not an exclusive relationship.
SPEAKER_02Totally, yes. But we knew we didn't know he had met her. Yes. So we yeah, so we learned that. What else? I mean, it's just like, what else did we even fucking learn?
SPEAKER_01We definitely learned that Wes made the first move. Yes, he made the first move.
SPEAKER_02Oh I do this. Amanda really revealed herself in this, and I'm interested to see if you picked up on this or thought this. But it was so interesting to me when they were like, How did Amanda like, when did you start developing feelings? And she was like, Well, he was the one who said something, you know, about like, oh, am I crazy? Do I think something's happening here? And she's like, and then all just came flooding to me. And what all I heard from that, and this is so on brand for her. It's like she was picked by him. And so then she was like, Okay, like, yeah, I'm I'm on board. Like you, like you've said in the last episode, Emily, like that's my man. It's like she is such a passenger in her life, and this relationship with West, like, is going to be a continuation of that pattern. Like, there's no really no real break between her and the separation with her and Kyle to her, you know, this whatever this friendship that she had with West that developed into something through all these thoughts and feelings. Like, it's just so clear to me that she has no identity outside of no probably the man that she is with. Yeah. And until she is single and like maybe like seek therapy, weird bitch, like then I just don't think this she's ever gonna have any introspection.
SPEAKER_01And I think she was even before they started hooking up, there was already that grasping onto West's like style, his total, his totalings, his vibe. Um, yeah, and that's what I'm smoking weed and like I'm the cool girl.
SPEAKER_02I wear baggy clothes. Also learned that West is, I just think he is one of the most duplicitous people like we've ever seen on reality TV. I don't think that it's crazy to me that he was like, I just didn't realize how much this was gonna affect our the friendships in the room. Like, and I just don't know how that's even possible.
SPEAKER_01I kind of agree. I kind of agree that they didn't think it was gonna be that big of a deal. I think when they started hooking up to begin with, everybody was like friendship shipping them, and everyone was loving their dynamic on Summer House, like at that time. I did not, I do not think they thought it was going to be that big of a deal. God, that's just really such a miscalculation. Agree. I totally agree. I just feel like it would have been so much better if they were like, we're in love. Like, and and uh or just admit anything.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. There, we got no insight really truly into their their relationship outside of like West was really the one who pursued her. Um she did say she wasn't aware of everything that was on the stage.
SPEAKER_01That wasn't one of the things they talked about in their many conversations, right? Right, right.
SPEAKER_02Um, and it was pretty crazy, you know, toward the end of the reunion. And Carl just was like, Amanda, do you still want to be with him? Like after hearing all of this, like hooking up with all of these women, all these other girls, hooking up with your best friend, like, do you still want to fucking be with him? And she was like, Yeah, I hear you. Like, that's my man. That's my man. But just not, I just felt like her demeanor was so fucking disrespectful. Yeah, like it was so, and I know this has been like talked about ad nauseum, but like by the end of this, I'm just like, get them banned. Like, I don't this is here's the thing about a reality star. It's like you, and especially certainly a Bravo reality star, like you need to come to these reunions like ready to like have some fucking real conversations. Yes. Yes, we have seen that over and over again. Like, we've seen Carl and Lindsay like come and like be honest and be be honest.
SPEAKER_00Be honest.
SPEAKER_02I I am being honest, and like be emotional and put themselves out there. Like, that is part of this, like deal. That's what we're paying you for.
SPEAKER_00It's your job. I give you money, you give me ideas. You never say thank you. That's what the money is for.
SPEAKER_02Made a deal with the devil, and like you you have to really lay yourself bare in a lot of these situations. And we have seen other people on this show and other franchises do that. And so for me, I am like, fire them. They are bad reality stars, not because they're bad people, not because of what they did to Sierra, which, like, yes, check, check those things, because they are not coming to this reunion and being authentic in any fucking way. They are not being good reality stars. And then we see Wes going on his shit fuck podcast that's not even about pop culture, it's about sports and addressing things and talking about things. And that's a big no-no. Like, I am deeply offended. Bravo has fired people in the past for doing that, and I hope they fucking fire him for doing that. Pop off Queen. There is, I mean, no notes. I'm so mad. Like, veins are bulging in my head right now.
SPEAKER_01Because, like, at the end of the day, it doesn't matter if you're shitty in in like the context of reality television. It doesn't matter if you're shitty, if you're entertaining. And what we watched for three fucking hours, actually, probably like 320. Yeah, was not authentic behavior in any way. No. Was PR points that they just kept going back to.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01What this final hour of the reunion was was anyone trying to rephrase a question a million different ways to see if we could get them to answer it. Um, and they just didn't. I like you saw Amanda look up, yep, calculate the talking points, yep, and then say them. Yep.
SPEAKER_02And it, I mean, yeah, at the end, I mean Lindsay Hubbard said it best. She was just like, Andy, I don't feel like I know anything. She liked waltzed in.
SPEAKER_01So they had one final break, and I think it was they were it was for the last 10 hours. Yeah. It was the last hour, and they were taking a break, and it was gonna be their final hour among you. This is hour 10. At one point during the uh this this reunion, they like flashbacked to earlier in the reunion shit was and they said seven hours ago to give you an idea of how long this reunion was. Um, and she waltzes in with her like glass of wine and is like, Andy, I feel like I've learned nothing. Put the clip in. Andy, I didn't learn anything.
SPEAKER_00What are you talking about? I just feel like there's not a lot of clarity. Really? Yeah. Should we start over? I mean, kind of.
SPEAKER_01Um, and I just feel like she was the audience. That was something that we got a lot of with Lindsay, with um Jesse, with Kyle, with Mia. Yeah. Um, and even Levi, where they were speaking for us. They were speaking for the audience. So I never got extremely frustrated. Yes. Because I was never like, why isn't someone asking them about this? I do feel like they should have organized the attack, the Miha attack more. Like everything.
SPEAKER_02And maybe they did and it was edited down.
SPEAKER_01Because it didn't.
SPEAKER_02There was only so much. Yeah. Okay.
SPEAKER_01Because that's what I was like, man, it's hitting so hard, like, quote, off camera. But then when they're like on set, yeah, why wasn't it hitting? Where it's like, no, bitch, we just talked to Mija. Like we just talked to her.
SPEAKER_02I think right. I also think because West was so his betas were blocked. And among other things, like he was, it was very much like it's hard to like get that much out of a wall. Like when you're just, and it's like he just kept saying the same things over and over again. Another thing we learned that just that I'm just remembering is that Amanda just didn't watch the season because it just would have been too hard for her. How dare you! Like the fucking audacity of this woman. She's like, I I mean, there were times like I just wasn't sleeping, I wasn't eating. It's like, don't try and invoke sympathy. Like, nobody feels bad for you.
SPEAKER_01She doesn't know how to do that.
SPEAKER_02And maybe we would feel bad for you if you showed a modicum of emotion or remorse or like emotional fucking intelligence about this situation, but you're not. This goes back to the reason they need to be fired because bitch, that is your job. Like, she's like, I'll watch it after the reunion. And they were all like, That's too late. And I think I don't remember who said it, but they were like, That's a cop out. And it is a cop out.
SPEAKER_01Because this is a job. Kyle did get it. It is a job. Kyle came after her and was like, Do you think it was easy for me to watch this? Yes, like I was the villain of this season. Like I acted, I was the lowest point of my life.
SPEAKER_02This is the first season where Amanda has had to deal with this, which like for 10 years, for a 10 year, 10-year tenure as a reality star, that is crazy. That is truly crazy.
SPEAKER_01That was one of the things that really I did get mad at that. So there was this moment where Andy asked Sierra, like, what were some of the hardest points watching this season? And she articulately was like the last episode where I was there for her. Yeah. And then he kind of like directs the question back to Amanda and was like, How does that make you feel? And she's like, Well, I haven't watched the season. Bitch, you experienced it. Yeah. Like you experienced it. Yeah. You don't have to watch it. It was less than a year ago. You cried with Sierra. Like, you don't remember how her support made you feel.
SPEAKER_02And again, like she certainly did in that Marie Claire interview. She talked about it.
SPEAKER_01Girl.
SPEAKER_02And yet, here we are.
SPEAKER_01I just, and so one of the only times we did get some moments of like honesty where I was like, at least she's being honest. And it was like, I just wish I could have it both. I wish I could have West and I wish I could have everybody not be mad at me. I mean, even though that's frustrating, that's the truth.
SPEAKER_02That's the truth of matter. And I just truly wonder too, if they're just like, maybe we can just put our heads down and this is all gonna blow over.
SPEAKER_01It's it's just so because the the the Instagram of it came up, which I'm glad it did, because there were so many what they described as breadcrumbs. Yeah. Um, one was like this meme that she posted where it's like, this is how much I care, and it was like, you know, a hand pinch. Um, and then the the the the music that she chose. Like I even remember Friends by Somber. She also did 12 to 12 in a room full of people. I look forward to it. And she did like her her constant um, because there was a lot of like you can look through this different lens and see what you want to see, but it just none of these things were true. None of these things were true. Like, I literally just like picked the top trending song, and honestly, that does hold up to the songs that she was picking.
SPEAKER_02I do think though, Sierra had a point where she was like, girls post so consciously and subconsciously. And like I fully, I I do think that there was definitely some, like they were being coy, like they were playing in our faces a little bit. There's just too much of it for it not to be true.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Like I just like I'm gonna choose to believe that. And like they did another thing that we learned was that like they were not in a relationship. It was really, or they weren't cheating, uh, I should say, uh, when Amanda was married. And it was really funny because they brought up Dave Portnoy and the Brianna Chicken Fry of it all. Yes. Because after they released their statement, Dave Portnoy, who got involved, because that's just like what he does, uh, was like, Oh, that's old news. Chicken fry told me that at the Super Bowl. Like, we, and we were all everyone's like, why is Dave Portnoy why is Dave Portnoy getting involved in this? And it was funny because Bailey this is a Wendy's mail.
SPEAKER_00This is a Wendy.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Because Bailey was like, Why would Dave Portnoy get involved? And I was like, oh, honey, he is a drama king. Like, that is like what he does. So it's like, I don't know if I'm gonna take Brianna Chicken Fry, who I'm like not a fan of, no, or Dave Portnoy, who's not a good guy, and like you be like, oh, okay. But certainly for them, I I just think it's funny how Kyle, Lindsay, Sierra, you know, Bailey, Carl, we're all like they're very in tune with the conversation around it. They do their homework. And you know, a Amanda was like on social media to protect her piece, but it's just like, okay, well, you just failed the fucking assignment.
SPEAKER_01So for me, like this is my timeline. I definitely think that they were flirty, crossing boundaries, being inappropriate with each other since January. 100%. And I think either he was laying, no, they were both laying it on thick. They were both being really, really flirty. Yeah. And that is talked about a lot. Like, what was the emotional affair? But like, here's the thing intention matters, especially in regards to male and female friendships. Yeah. So it's like, I truly believe like men and women can be flirty if their intention is not more sinister than that. Yeah. And it's a blurred line 100%. But it if you look at that house, everybody's flirting with each other. Like West is like grabbing Levi's boobs, and like, and I mean, Lindsay's firing down on everybody. And that's just like the state of the show. It's what makes it fun. Like flirting is fun. Being flirty is fun, but the intention matters. Yeah. And I think maybe that's what the question was asked. And according to them, it was like, this was not even in my head. And I will say I agree with Amanda when she was like, I was still so wrapped up in the failure of my marriage. Yeah. And I truly do believe that. But I also believe that Amanda will always go for male validation and male um attention more, which is why like Sierra being for her didn't matter as much as Wes being there for her. Yeah. Because she's just a she's just a girl, she's just a boys' girl.
SPEAKER_02She's an agent of the patriarchy.
SPEAKER_01She definitely is an agent of the patriarchy.
SPEAKER_02She really is. I agree. Okay. So if I had to say like what my final thoughts are on the topic of like their, you know, her fidelity to Kyle, I would say like I do not think I do not think she was maybe like emotionally invested in West dur during the summer. Um, do I think he was gaming a little bit? Yes. Yes, I do. Um because I agree. Like I think she was so wrapped up in her relationship. I don't think anything physical was happening, but as we've established, like I think an emotional affair is just as worse, if not worse. Um, I do not believe that the Instagram of it all was a coincidence. Okay. So that's where I stand on it. Like I just think it's just like I'm, you know, me, girl, Occam's razor. Like sometimes the simplest, you know, most of the time, the most the simplest explanation is what is true. And for me, it's just like I do think like putting the lens and watching the show back, you can watch it through a different lens and you can ask those questions, but I really don't think they were having an affair at that time. But I'm so sorry. Like these January through March Instagram posts. Totally. Nah, nah. Like I'm I'm not believing your story. No, totally. At the end of the reunion, which we thought was the end, we get a preview for a bonus episode for next week that looks like three separate conversations. We have a conversation between West and Kyle. We have a conversation between Amanda and Lindsay, and we have a conversation between Sierra and Mija. What do you think? Um, I mean, I think you said it best. I'm tired of this, Grandpa.
SPEAKER_01I'm tired of digging these holes, Grandpa. Like, I'm tired of this grandpa.
SPEAKER_00That's too damn good.
SPEAKER_02Like that was like my sister texted our Emily Squad chat last night because Emily and I are a shout out. This is not a Peacock podcast, but we watch we were Peacock Girly. So we watched the day after, and I was also playing Mahjong last night.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Um, and she texted us and told us there was an this episode was coming. So we did know that before watching. Um, and I said the only reason I would be okay with this is if this is going to close the loop on Amanda and West. Close the book. Close the book on Amanda and West. Like close this storyline out, fire them from Bravo, and then we can all fucking move on with our lives.
SPEAKER_01Okay, here is what I'm just gonna say. In the preview of it, like there is Amanda emoting more than she did in her pinky on the reunion, where it's like, well, if this doesn't work out, I'm just gonna feel so stupid. And then, and then we have Wes saying to Kyle, I'm gonna say something and it's gonna hurt you, but like I've loved her for a really long time. That should have been said at the reunion.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I totally agree. And I also just think like there is nothing that Wes Wilson can say that I'm going to believe. I don't know if I believe that, or even care to think about if I believe that, if that makes sense. Like he's just so far gone. The lies, like, you know, Sierra had said it's just like the lies are piling up. The the lies about the lies, it's like there's just no clarity that he can provide me because he's a fucking, he is a pathological liar, like to some degree. Yeah. Amanda, like, there's more, you know, there's more hope for there. But I also am just like so disgusted by her. Um, the the preview makes it look like Lindsay is saying, like West was saying something to her that Amanda wasn't like was like, wait a second, like that's not what happened at all. So it's kind of looking a little bit. This 45-minute episode might be juicier than the thing. And that part kind of pisses me off.
SPEAKER_01Pisses me off.
SPEAKER_02Pisses me off. So just when we thought, we thought we would be free from these shackles.
SPEAKER_01And I kind of want to be free. I'm kind of done.
SPEAKER_02That was me last week. I'm kind of done. Like, I'm obviously like riding or dying, like, which in the same.
SPEAKER_01Of course. Of course.
SPEAKER_02Um, but it's also like I have a Love Island schedule to keep up with now.
SPEAKER_01I'm excited about in the city.
SPEAKER_02Like, I'm excited about this show. Yeah. My we're, yes, the fatigue has set in now for you too. Yeah. So a thousand percent. Totally. And my sister was saying the same thing.
SPEAKER_01Literally, as as soon as like the thing was, I was excited because I thought this was gonna be the end. I know. And like the fatigue did not set in until I heard, like, oh, guess what? There's more. I know. And then it was just like, I can't do this. I can't do this. I can't keep doing this. I have a life to live. Set me free. Set me free from these shackles. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_02So we will be back next week, you guys. We'll be recapping that, talking about that. Um, we'll see how many, how many thoughts we have. I don't know if we'll do a deep dive on it or we'll incorporate it into our pop culture pod luck. But um, yeah, let us know what your reunion thoughts are. Um, you know, leave a comment on our Instagram. We are at Midwest Betsy's Pod. Leave a comment um wherever you get your podcasts. That's Spotify or Apple Podcasts. Remember to like and subscribe. Until next time.
SPEAKER_01Thanks, guys. Bye.